diff --git a/perl-5.8.0-nptlhint.patch b/perl-5.8.0-nptlhint.patch
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..fbab567
--- /dev/null
+++ b/perl-5.8.0-nptlhint.patch
@@ -0,0 +1,15 @@
+Remove the THREADS_HAVE_PIDS hint for NTPL-enabled Linux
+systems.  Otherwise ppids are cached too aggressively,
+resulting in broken behavior.
+
+--- perl-5.8.0/hints/linux.sh.nptl	2004-12-01 12:38:16.021664783 -0500
++++ perl-5.8.0/hints/linux.sh	2004-12-01 12:38:28.213470553 -0500
+@@ -249,7 +249,7 @@
+ cat > UU/usethreads.cbu <<'EOCBU'
+ case "$usethreads" in
+ $define|true|[yY]*)
+-        ccflags="-D_REENTRANT -D_GNU_SOURCE -DTHREADS_HAVE_PIDS $ccflags"
++        ccflags="-D_REENTRANT -D_GNU_SOURCE $ccflags"
+         set `echo X "$libswanted "| sed -e 's/ c / pthread c /'`
+         shift
+         libswanted="$*"
diff --git a/perl.spec b/perl.spec
index 2088c59..454e77d 100644
--- a/perl.spec
+++ b/perl.spec
@@ -5,7 +5,7 @@
 %define multilib_64_archs x86_64 s390x ppc64 sparc64
 
 %define perlver 5.8.5
-%define perlrel 10
+%define perlrel 11
 %define perlepoch 3
 
 Provides: perl(:WITH_PERLIO)
@@ -101,6 +101,8 @@ Patch24: perl-5.8.3-empty-rpath.patch
 Patch100: perl-5.8.1-fpic.patch
 Patch101: perl-5.8.0-libdir64.patch
 
+Patch32002: perl-5.8.0-nptlhint.patch
+
 # module updatesd
 # Patch202: perl-5.8.0-Safe2.09.patch
 
@@ -221,6 +223,8 @@ more secure running of setuid perl scripts.
 %patch101 -p1
 %endif
 
+%patch32002 -p1
+
 find . -name \*.orig -exec rm -fv {} \;
 
 %build
@@ -405,6 +409,9 @@ find $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_libdir}/perl* \
 %endif
 
 %changelog
+* Wed Dec  1 2004 Chip Turner <cturner@redhat.com> 3:5.8.5-11
+- bugzilla: 140563, nptl doesn't act like linuxthreads; threads have no PIDs
+
 * Thu Nov 11 2004 Jeff Johnson <jbj@jbj.org> 3:5.8.5-10
 - rebuild against db-4.3.21.