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| .. SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0
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| .. _netdev-FAQ:
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| ==========
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| netdev FAQ
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| ==========
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| 
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| What is netdev?
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| ---------------
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| It is a mailing list for all network-related Linux stuff.  This
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| includes anything found under net/ (i.e. core code like IPv6) and
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| drivers/net (i.e. hardware specific drivers) in the Linux source tree.
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| 
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| Note that some subsystems (e.g. wireless drivers) which have a high
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| volume of traffic have their own specific mailing lists.
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| 
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| The netdev list is managed (like many other Linux mailing lists) through
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| VGER (http://vger.kernel.org/) and archives can be found below:
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| 
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| -  http://marc.info/?l=linux-netdev
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| -  http://www.spinics.net/lists/netdev/
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| 
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| Aside from subsystems like that mentioned above, all network-related
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| Linux development (i.e. RFC, review, comments, etc.) takes place on
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| netdev.
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| 
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| How do the changes posted to netdev make their way into Linux?
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| --------------------------------------------------------------
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| There are always two trees (git repositories) in play.  Both are
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| driven by David Miller, the main network maintainer.  There is the
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| ``net`` tree, and the ``net-next`` tree.  As you can probably guess from
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| the names, the ``net`` tree is for fixes to existing code already in the
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| mainline tree from Linus, and ``net-next`` is where the new code goes
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| for the future release.  You can find the trees here:
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| 
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| - https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/netdev/net.git
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| - https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/netdev/net-next.git
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| 
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| How often do changes from these trees make it to the mainline Linus tree?
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| -------------------------------------------------------------------------
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| To understand this, you need to know a bit of background information on
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| the cadence of Linux development.  Each new release starts off with a
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| two week "merge window" where the main maintainers feed their new stuff
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| to Linus for merging into the mainline tree.  After the two weeks, the
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| merge window is closed, and it is called/tagged ``-rc1``.  No new
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| features get mainlined after this -- only fixes to the rc1 content are
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| expected.  After roughly a week of collecting fixes to the rc1 content,
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| rc2 is released.  This repeats on a roughly weekly basis until rc7
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| (typically; sometimes rc6 if things are quiet, or rc8 if things are in a
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| state of churn), and a week after the last vX.Y-rcN was done, the
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| official vX.Y is released.
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| 
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| Relating that to netdev: At the beginning of the 2-week merge window,
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| the ``net-next`` tree will be closed - no new changes/features.  The
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| accumulated new content of the past ~10 weeks will be passed onto
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| mainline/Linus via a pull request for vX.Y -- at the same time, the
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| ``net`` tree will start accumulating fixes for this pulled content
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| relating to vX.Y
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| 
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| An announcement indicating when ``net-next`` has been closed is usually
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| sent to netdev, but knowing the above, you can predict that in advance.
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| 
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| IMPORTANT: Do not send new ``net-next`` content to netdev during the
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| period during which ``net-next`` tree is closed.
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| 
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| Shortly after the two weeks have passed (and vX.Y-rc1 is released), the
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| tree for ``net-next`` reopens to collect content for the next (vX.Y+1)
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| release.
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| 
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| If you aren't subscribed to netdev and/or are simply unsure if
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| ``net-next`` has re-opened yet, simply check the ``net-next`` git
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| repository link above for any new networking-related commits.  You may
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| also check the following website for the current status:
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| 
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|   http://vger.kernel.org/~davem/net-next.html
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| 
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| The ``net`` tree continues to collect fixes for the vX.Y content, and is
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| fed back to Linus at regular (~weekly) intervals.  Meaning that the
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| focus for ``net`` is on stabilization and bug fixes.
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| 
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| Finally, the vX.Y gets released, and the whole cycle starts over.
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| 
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| So where are we now in this cycle?
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| ----------------------------------
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| 
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| Load the mainline (Linus) page here:
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| 
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|   https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git
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| 
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| and note the top of the "tags" section.  If it is rc1, it is early in
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| the dev cycle.  If it was tagged rc7 a week ago, then a release is
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| probably imminent.
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| 
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| How do I indicate which tree (net vs. net-next) my patch should be in?
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| ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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| Firstly, think whether you have a bug fix or new "next-like" content.
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| Then once decided, assuming that you use git, use the prefix flag, i.e.
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| ::
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| 
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|   git format-patch --subject-prefix='PATCH net-next' start..finish
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| 
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| Use ``net`` instead of ``net-next`` (always lower case) in the above for
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| bug-fix ``net`` content.  If you don't use git, then note the only magic
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| in the above is just the subject text of the outgoing e-mail, and you
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| can manually change it yourself with whatever MUA you are comfortable
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| with.
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| 
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| I sent a patch and I'm wondering what happened to it - how can I tell whether it got merged?
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| --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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| Start by looking at the main patchworks queue for netdev:
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| 
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|   https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/netdevbpf/list/
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| 
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| The "State" field will tell you exactly where things are at with your
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| patch.
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| 
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| The above only says "Under Review".  How can I find out more?
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| -------------------------------------------------------------
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| Generally speaking, the patches get triaged quickly (in less than
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| 48h).  So be patient.  Asking the maintainer for status updates on your
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| patch is a good way to ensure your patch is ignored or pushed to the
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| bottom of the priority list.
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| 
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| I submitted multiple versions of the patch series. Should I directly update patchwork for the previous versions of these patch series?
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| --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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| No, please don't interfere with the patch status on patchwork, leave
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| it to the maintainer to figure out what is the most recent and current
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| version that should be applied. If there is any doubt, the maintainer
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| will reply and ask what should be done.
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| 
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| I made changes to only a few patches in a patch series should I resend only those changed?
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| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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| No, please resend the entire patch series and make sure you do number your
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| patches such that it is clear this is the latest and greatest set of patches
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| that can be applied.
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| 
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| I submitted multiple versions of a patch series and it looks like a version other than the last one has been accepted, what should I do?
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| ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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| There is no revert possible, once it is pushed out, it stays like that.
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| Please send incremental versions on top of what has been merged in order to fix
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| the patches the way they would look like if your latest patch series was to be
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| merged.
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| 
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| Are there special rules regarding stable submissions on netdev?
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| ---------------------------------------------------------------
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| While it used to be the case that netdev submissions were not supposed
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| to carry explicit ``CC: stable@vger.kernel.org`` tags that is no longer
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| the case today. Please follow the standard stable rules in
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| :ref:`Documentation/process/stable-kernel-rules.rst <stable_kernel_rules>`,
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| and make sure you include appropriate Fixes tags!
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| 
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| Is the comment style convention different for the networking content?
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| ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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| Yes, in a largely trivial way.  Instead of this::
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| 
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|   /*
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|    * foobar blah blah blah
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|    * another line of text
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|    */
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| 
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| it is requested that you make it look like this::
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| 
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|   /* foobar blah blah blah
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|    * another line of text
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|    */
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| 
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| I am working in existing code that has the former comment style and not the latter. Should I submit new code in the former style or the latter?
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| -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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| Make it the latter style, so that eventually all code in the domain
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| of netdev is of this format.
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| 
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| I found a bug that might have possible security implications or similar. Should I mail the main netdev maintainer off-list?
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| ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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| No. The current netdev maintainer has consistently requested that
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| people use the mailing lists and not reach out directly.  If you aren't
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| OK with that, then perhaps consider mailing security@kernel.org or
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| reading about http://oss-security.openwall.org/wiki/mailing-lists/distros
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| as possible alternative mechanisms.
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| 
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| What level of testing is expected before I submit my change?
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| ------------------------------------------------------------
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| If your changes are against ``net-next``, the expectation is that you
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| have tested by layering your changes on top of ``net-next``.  Ideally
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| you will have done run-time testing specific to your change, but at a
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| minimum, your changes should survive an ``allyesconfig`` and an
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| ``allmodconfig`` build without new warnings or failures.
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| 
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| How do I post corresponding changes to user space components?
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| -------------------------------------------------------------
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| User space code exercising kernel features should be posted
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| alongside kernel patches. This gives reviewers a chance to see
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| how any new interface is used and how well it works.
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| 
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| When user space tools reside in the kernel repo itself all changes
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| should generally come as one series. If series becomes too large
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| or the user space project is not reviewed on netdev include a link
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| to a public repo where user space patches can be seen.
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| 
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| In case user space tooling lives in a separate repository but is
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| reviewed on netdev  (e.g. patches to `iproute2` tools) kernel and
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| user space patches should form separate series (threads) when posted
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| to the mailing list, e.g.::
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| 
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|   [PATCH net-next 0/3] net: some feature cover letter
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|    └─ [PATCH net-next 1/3] net: some feature prep
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|    └─ [PATCH net-next 2/3] net: some feature do it
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|    └─ [PATCH net-next 3/3] selftest: net: some feature
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| 
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|   [PATCH iproute2-next] ip: add support for some feature
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| 
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| Posting as one thread is discouraged because it confuses patchwork
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| (as of patchwork 2.2.2).
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| 
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| Can I reproduce the checks from patchwork on my local machine?
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| --------------------------------------------------------------
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| 
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| Checks in patchwork are mostly simple wrappers around existing kernel
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| scripts, the sources are available at:
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| 
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| https://github.com/kuba-moo/nipa/tree/master/tests
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| 
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| Running all the builds and checks locally is a pain, can I post my patches and have the patchwork bot validate them?
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| --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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| 
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| No, you must ensure that your patches are ready by testing them locally
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| before posting to the mailing list. The patchwork build bot instance
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| gets overloaded very easily and netdev@vger really doesn't need more
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| traffic if we can help it.
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| 
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| netdevsim is great, can I extend it for my out-of-tree tests?
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| -------------------------------------------------------------
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| 
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| No, `netdevsim` is a test vehicle solely for upstream tests.
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| (Please add your tests under tools/testing/selftests/.)
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| 
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| We also give no guarantees that `netdevsim` won't change in the future
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| in a way which would break what would normally be considered uAPI.
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| 
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| Is netdevsim considered a "user" of an API?
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| -------------------------------------------
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| 
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| Linux kernel has a long standing rule that no API should be added unless
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| it has a real, in-tree user. Mock-ups and tests based on `netdevsim` are
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| strongly encouraged when adding new APIs, but `netdevsim` in itself
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| is **not** considered a use case/user.
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| 
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| Any other tips to help ensure my net/net-next patch gets OK'd?
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| --------------------------------------------------------------
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| Attention to detail.  Re-read your own work as if you were the
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| reviewer.  You can start with using ``checkpatch.pl``, perhaps even with
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| the ``--strict`` flag.  But do not be mindlessly robotic in doing so.
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| If your change is a bug fix, make sure your commit log indicates the
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| end-user visible symptom, the underlying reason as to why it happens,
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| and then if necessary, explain why the fix proposed is the best way to
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| get things done.  Don't mangle whitespace, and as is common, don't
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| mis-indent function arguments that span multiple lines.  If it is your
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| first patch, mail it to yourself so you can test apply it to an
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| unpatched tree to confirm infrastructure didn't mangle it.
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| 
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| Finally, go back and read
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| :ref:`Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst <submittingpatches>`
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| to be sure you are not repeating some common mistake documented there.
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